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I'm trying to configure TeamViewer to use Wake on LAN to a computer in another location so that I can wake it up whenever I need it and carry on with some installations and file access through it's remote access.
The BIOS was already configured for WOL and I've already configured the network settings on Windows 10 as per the information supplied on TeamViewers website. The biggest problem is setting up the public address. I thought I had it correct by setting up the port forwarding on the Virgin Media Superhub. So my understanding is that I've added a new rule which is the computers IP address with port 9 as they suggested. I then registered under noip.com to link them together but the site seems to suggest that the ports are still blocked?
I've heard that Virgin Media's Superhub's aren't very good for this sort of thing? I'm not sure what else would be missing or if I even need to use noip as a passthrough, I heard that was the easiest way around it.
The BIOS was already configured for WOL and I've already configured the network settings on Windows 10 as per the information supplied on TeamViewers website. The biggest problem is setting up the public address. I thought I had it correct by setting up the port forwarding on the Virgin Media Superhub. So my understanding is that I've added a new rule which is the computers IP address with port 9 as they suggested. I then registered under noip.com to link them together but the site seems to suggest that the ports are still blocked?
I've heard that Virgin Media's Superhub's aren't very good for this sort of thing? I'm not sure what else would be missing or if I even need to use noip as a passthrough, I heard that was the easiest way around it.
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- #2You can't port forward port 9 to the IP address of your PC as the IP address is set in the OS and your PC doesn't know its IP is when its sleeping. So instead you need to multicast the WoL request to your internal network as detailed in the TeamViewer manual. The good news is that the Virgin SuperHub supports mutlicasting but its not enabled by default, you have to enable it in the firewall settings to support PPTP and MutliCast pass through.
Personally I have a server on 24x7 in my home network so I remote onto its desktop and use that for WoL requests and that is pretty reliable.
Step 6 - Configure port forwarding. Configuring port forwarding on your router is a required change; WOL won't work without it. WOL uses UDP as its Layer 4 transport, but the port varies based on the utility. The mc-wol.exe utility uses UDP port 65535. AMD's Magic Packet Utility uses UDP port 2304. Replace 'PP' with the port number your machine listens on (usually 7 or 9). Remote Wake On LAN via Port Forwarding. To remotely wake up a computer over the Internet using Wake On LAN- follow these instructions: 1 - Create a port forward rule on the Web Interface (Applications & Gaming- Port Range Forward) to the chosen ip.
- Nov 29, 2013 Ensure 24/7 access to your computer without having to leave it running all the time. With the new Wake-on-LAN feature, you can now wake up your computer remotely whenever you need access.
- I came up with a way to use the wake-on-LAN feature from anywhere on the Internet, even though my Mac, like many, is behind a NAT router. For those unfamiliar with wake-on-LAN: a specially-formed data packet containing your ethernet device's MAC address can be used to tell your computer to wake up.
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If you want to know how to keep track of you current IP, dynamic DNS has worked well for me (http://freedns.afraid.org/)
I would also recommend:
www.dyndns.org
www.no-ip.com
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www.dyndns.org
www.no-ip.com
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there's this one too http://www.dslreports.com/wakeup
Just download this: WakeOnLan.
It's freeware and do all work without the need to use external web sites.
It's freeware and do all work without the need to use external web sites.
Yeah, but it looks like that's for sleeping computers on the same LAN as the one you're currently on. This hint is more for people that want to wake up their Mac remotely via the Internet like if you wanted to access your home computer from the office or a friend's house but it's asleep.
So it seems.
But actually it works over the internet if you manually add the host with IP-Address and Ethernet-ID.
I use it for remotely waking an iMac behind a NAT that i have to access for screensharing.
But actually it works over the internet if you manually add the host with IP-Address and Ethernet-ID.
I use it for remotely waking an iMac behind a NAT that i have to access for screensharing.
Believe it or not, some people are forced to use a PC at work, and this solution won't work =( The poster's idea is good.
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That's my problem as well.
But look, I found this: WOL Manager Professional
But look, I found this: WOL Manager Professional
Teamviewer Lan Connection
This does not work if you are behind an Airport router, even if you're hard wired via the ethernet port.
The Airport router does not forward the 'wake-up' packet.
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The Airport router does not forward the 'wake-up' packet.
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If the router implements port forwarding correctly any old port shouldn't allow a WOL packet into the network (read big security hole). WOL is a UDP packet sent to port 9 and with a proper router you would need to forward UDP/9 to the system you want to wake up.
Actually, that's only partially true. A wake on lan frame can be embedded in any protocol and is nothing more than a specific stream of data. It's composed of 6 bytes 0xff followed by the MAC-address (ethernet address) repeated at least 16 times, ie
to wake a computer with the MAC-address 00:11:22:33:44:55. The first six bytes are for syncronization, and the rest identifies the computer. This can, as I said, be embedded in any protocol, or, for that matter, as a raw ethernet frame. UDP-packets seems to be the most common solution though, probably because it's simplicity.
Anyway, it ought be quite difficult to detect this kind of data stream (at least without false positives), and as far as I can tell, it's possible to insert a packet (ie TCP-packet) containing the magic string through a firewall. This, of course, may or may not be the case in the hint :)
My iBook is connected to the Internet wirelessly, but I wanted it off when I wasn't using it, too. What I do is leave the modem cable connected and enable 'wake on modem ring'. Then, when I want to wake the iBook up so I can SSH in to it, I ring my house.
You Sir (or Madam) are brilliant.
I've never been entirely comfortable with the thought of sending WOL packets across the Internet (particularly since the mechanism was really designed for intranets and lacks any form of authentication) except with a VPN router, but the idea of using a POTS ring just to wake a sleeping Mac is perfect!
Not only is the wakeup signal (ring) kept safely 'out of band' with the SSH connection itself, but I'm thinking it may even be possible to target the Mac so that it only wakes up when specifically selected. How? By using one of those 'comm-share' boxes that allows you to re-direct incoming calls/rings by sending a touch-tone sequence during the initial ring. (These boxes are often used to share an incoming line between a phone, answering machine, fax and modem)
I've never been entirely comfortable with the thought of sending WOL packets across the Internet (particularly since the mechanism was really designed for intranets and lacks any form of authentication) except with a VPN router, but the idea of using a POTS ring just to wake a sleeping Mac is perfect!
Not only is the wakeup signal (ring) kept safely 'out of band' with the SSH connection itself, but I'm thinking it may even be possible to target the Mac so that it only wakes up when specifically selected. How? By using one of those 'comm-share' boxes that allows you to re-direct incoming calls/rings by sending a touch-tone sequence during the initial ring. (These boxes are often used to share an incoming line between a phone, answering machine, fax and modem)
OK...i just spent 3 or 4 hours trying to figure this remote wake up problem out. Timbuktu is useless without being able to wake up my sleeping office computer. It amazes me that a product that complex CAN NOT do this (i just called and confirmed this). It has to be nearly 100% of their users have this problem. Hell, that's what the program does is remote communication.
So about an hour ago I got this modem idea...and then saw this post. Hell, this is my next thing to do when I get back to the office: hook up my old phone line to the modem. Duh.
I have iChat running and can see if my computer wakes up or not :)
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So about an hour ago I got this modem idea...and then saw this post. Hell, this is my next thing to do when I get back to the office: hook up my old phone line to the modem. Duh.
I have iChat running and can see if my computer wakes up or not :)
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This is a great thread, but I was wondering if anyone knows how to make WOL work when you have OS X set to 'Require password to wake this computer from sleep or screen saver' in the Security control panel. When the password setting is on, waking the machine just shows a login screen, and it quickly falls back asleep when I have no way of entering the password from my remote connection.
I feel like I shouldn't have to give up security just so I can wake the machine...
I feel like I shouldn't have to give up security just so I can wake the machine...
Any solution to the fall back asleep after 30 seconds when a password is set - besides no password or no sleep?
isnt your MAC address protection enough?
I'm currently running a few services from my computer for others to use, so I turned off automatic sleep altogether. I needed a similar level of client security, so I decided the best way to lock my computer was to go to the login window. I downloaded WinSwitch (http://wincent.com/a/products/winswitch/) to create a shortcut to login window and Ciao (http://lorenb.com/software/ciao/) to automatically go to login window after a period of inactivity. You can use this setup while leaving your computer awake or asleep with the same client security.
Here's the perl script that will send a correctly-formatted UDP packet that was alluded to in the original hint: I was successful in waking my G5 PowerMac, but neither of my iBooks appear to respond (even after shutting down the firewall, setting the correct options, plugging in the adapter, etc.)
is it this perl script that would let you build a wake function on your own website(like dslreport, just with fixed addys in a single button) and if so.. any hints on how to incoporate it in a html/flash site?